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European Politics Online Workshop (EPOW) - Shared screen with speaker view
Seth Jolly
Thanks for joining us today. Feel free to use the raise hand feature or post questions/comments in the chat.
Mark Copelovitch
Question/reaction for Tanja/Christina: I agree on the historic nature of getting EU countries to cooperate on the Recovery Fund (though worth noting that EU already borrowed in bond markets in multiple ways, so this is more evolution than transformation), but it’s not at all clear that the EU has really turned its back on austerity. The scale of the funds relative to the magnitude of the COVID shock is tiny, esp. for Italy/Greece. And despite some reallocation, the focus on structural adjustment means specifically a lack of immediate demand-side stimulus/fiscal assistance, which will feed more austerity in 2021-22. We’re already seeing sharp diversions in fiscal stimulus between the North and South within the EU. Should we be concerned about the possibility (likelihood?) that the EU-level politics will lead to sharp opposition to a second Recovery Fund if/when necessary, and/or that these N/S divisions will have negative effects on EU solidarity?
Matthias Matthijs
Question on EU vs US Covid-19 cases/deaths: I was struck that EU has 2 million cases while the US has 6.5million
Matthias Matthijs
But there seem to be a similar number of deaths (180k vs 200k).
Matthias Matthijs
Any idea why?
Stefanie Walter
on the cases vs. deaths. I think it’s to some extent a function of when the cases peaked. In Europe, it was much earlier in the crisis, when a) more older people got infected and b) there was still much less knowledge about treatments
Matthias Matthijs
Thank you, Stefanie!
Stefanie Walter
death rates now are relatively low (though rising as the virus is travelling into the older segments of society again)
Gabriele Magni
Great presentations! Question for all/any panelists. To push back a little bit on positive expectations on solidarity and cooperation - What will the effect of COVID-19 be on solidarity and perceived boundaries of community in Europe (in public opinion)? Crises often spark selective solidarity / parochial altruism (either at the local or national level). Why could/would COVID spark transnational solidarity, especially given the resentment in some countries about the lack of support from other European countries at the peak of the crisis?
Mark Copelovitch
Better late than never! :)
Matthias Matthijs
Mark Copelovitch
Thanks all for a great discussion. Time for me to GRIPE.
Stefanie Walter
Thanks for organizing a great session! I need to leave to go GRIPEing… See you soon again.
We should remember that the European Parliament hasn’t approved the recovery package yet. There is still a fight to be had over rule of law conditionality. Also, re: the tax authority that Tanja mentioned - that would indeed be a major change, but it hasn’t been agreed yet. The own resources part was left to be agreed later.
Seth Jolly
Thanks for joining!
Gary Marks
I have a comment/question about the EU and geopolitics - relating to the rise of nationalism.
Matthias Matthijs
Thank you, Tanja, Liesbet, Christina, and Seth! Looking forward to the next one.
I agree with what Gary is saying here. So long as the EU makes foreign policy by unanimity, that will hold back any ambitions re a more ‘geopolitical EU’. Especially true since strategic rivals like china and Russia can cultivate Trojan horse governments inside the eu
Seth Jolly
Next week, join us for a presentation by Bjorn Bremer. Same time, same Zoom room!
europow.com for the schedule for the rest of the fall
Thanks to the presenters for all the insights and thanks to Seth for organizing.
Willem Maas
Yes, thanks very much.